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secretary clinton said she was screaming on the phone at libyan officials. there's no voice in the world like that of the president of the united states. and i do believe if he had picked up the phone and called the libyan government these folks could have gotten out of the airport to the annex and the last two guys may very well be alive. if and he did call the libyan officials and they sort of blew him off that would affect whether or not i would give foreign aid in the future to libya. but if he failed to call on behalf of those people under siege, and i think that's a massive failure of leadership by our commander in chief. >> schieffer: have you tried to find out if he did call? >> i've tried-- we know he had a 15-minute briefing by secretary panet and the chairman of the joint chiefs right after the attack happened. it was a preplanned meeting. it just happened that benghazi came up at the meeting. i don't know what the president did that evening. i don't know if he ever called anyone. i know he never talked to the secretary of defense. i know that he
secretary clinton said she was screaming on the phone at libyan officials. there's no voice in the world like that of the president of the united states. and i do believe if he had picked up the phone and called the libyan government these folks could have gotten out of the airport to the annex and the last two guys may very well be alive. if and he did call the libyan officials and they sort of blew him off that would affect whether or not i would give foreign aid in the future to libya. but...
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president clinton below. how do you have him handle the rest? >> he will do what he has been doing. you use the word "confrontational." i would use a different word. they will be very familiar themes. the economy will be central and how we can grow it. so everybody can participate. fair shot, pay your fair share but other things that he does lay out, he'll lay out the looming deadline on the sequester and tough choices we have to make around it and consequences if we let the sequester go into effect and, you know, cuts to some pretty critical programs, so i think the state of the union is always an important moment in a presidency, not just another case for the people sitting in the room but the country of the tough choices we have to make and i think he'll make it. >> nicolle, a cautionary tale on the state of the union. >> i think that he made the proposal to reform social security without having his own party on board. that's a lesson for any president, but i think president obama did the republican party a huge favor by delivering an inaugural address that was historically comba
president clinton below. how do you have him handle the rest? >> he will do what he has been doing. you use the word "confrontational." i would use a different word. they will be very familiar themes. the economy will be central and how we can grow it. so everybody can participate. fair shot, pay your fair share but other things that he does lay out, he'll lay out the looming deadline on the sequester and tough choices we have to make around it and consequences if we let the...
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. >> did you support the recommendation by secretary of state, then secretary of state clinton and then head of cia general petraeus that we provide weapons to the resistance in syria? did you support that? >> we did. >> now, white house spokesman jay carney said he could not get into internal deliberations but added the administration has to be very careful not to send weapons that could wind up in the wrong hands. john? >> ed henry for us tonight at the white house. ed, thanks. more of this later on in the program with the panel as well. you've probably noticed that you're paying a lot more for gasoline today than you did just a month ago. the national average, $3.57 a gallon. that is 27 cents more than it was in early january. crude oil futures were down 11 cents to close at 95.72 a barrel, but the entire equation may be changing. our chief national correspondent jim angle reports the days of america's against oamerica's den oil could be numbered. >> reporter: the u.s. has discover energy than it thought it had. some talk about north american energy independence. >> we could make ope
. >> did you support the recommendation by secretary of state, then secretary of state clinton and then head of cia general petraeus that we provide weapons to the resistance in syria? did you support that? >> we did. >> now, white house spokesman jay carney said he could not get into internal deliberations but added the administration has to be very careful not to send weapons that could wind up in the wrong hands. john? >> ed henry for us tonight at the white house....
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presidents. >> the staff wanted to know what happened to the andrew johnson during the trial of bill clinton. >> as any member. house presented a case on the floor of senate. >> his answer was no. >> he should be are removed from office. >> so congressmen had to make the case against clinton. recently senators have been asking a lot of questions about the filibuster. >> they recognize the senate would be different institution and they will say it look just like the house of representatives which is something they don't want. >> chris: it's not a compliment. >> we have files on filibusters and files on every person who has served in the senate. >> ritchie took us to the archives of his office picking a file at random. edward bartlett the first senator froms. >> 35,000 photos and cartoons of the senate over the centuries. >> in is a picture of the senators in the 1880s, all men. >> there is wonderful photo op of a senate softball game with a
presidents. >> the staff wanted to know what happened to the andrew johnson during the trial of bill clinton. >> as any member. house presented a case on the floor of senate. >> his answer was no. >> he should be are removed from office. >> so congressmen had to make the case against clinton. recently senators have been asking a lot of questions about the filibuster. >> they recognize the senate would be different institution and they will say it look just...
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. >> we were asked to go to iraq by senator clinton to see if we could push the iraqis to make sure we got legal protection to our troops. when the prime minister said, how many are you going to recommend, i turn to you and you said, i believe we are still working on that. the recall that conversation? >> yes, i do. >> it was not sent general austin did not know what he needed. it was just that nobody would tell him what they would approve. general austin always had a firm view. i said, that may be more than the political market can bear. i am not insensitive about the fatigue back here at home. i know you were making the best recommendations you could. my problem is not with you, general austin. you put the numbers to paper and at the end of the day, we had none. i want to put into the record a load of articles about iraq. blood for oil. iraq's returned to bloodshed. -- return to bloodshed. i would like permission to put all of these articles into the record. i would like everybody to know general austin thought long and hard about the residual force. do you remember when you were fir
. >> we were asked to go to iraq by senator clinton to see if we could push the iraqis to make sure we got legal protection to our troops. when the prime minister said, how many are you going to recommend, i turn to you and you said, i believe we are still working on that. the recall that conversation? >> yes, i do. >> it was not sent general austin did not know what he needed. it was just that nobody would tell him what they would approve. general austin always had a firm...
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still have no idea what the president did when -- during the night of september 11th and when secretary clinton said she had a clear eyed view of the threats we faced in libya, the secretary of defense and chairman of the joint chiefs said they knew that night it was a terrorist attack and knew of the reporting coming out of libya from ambassador stevens says we cannot defend the consulate. she was not clear eyed. she was blind and deaf and the president of the united states never picked up the phone to call anybody in libya to help these four people under attack. the first ambassador killed in 30 years. they withheld information. i think they manipulated the evidence after the attack to create a political narrative rather than sharing with the public the truth about an al-qaeda attack that was preplanned and precoordinated. we will get to the bottom of this. >> chris: let me ask you one more question about the sequester before we let you go, senator. you know if we go into the sequester the president is going to hammer republicans. the white house has already put out a list of the terrible thi
still have no idea what the president did when -- during the night of september 11th and when secretary clinton said she had a clear eyed view of the threats we faced in libya, the secretary of defense and chairman of the joint chiefs said they knew that night it was a terrorist attack and knew of the reporting coming out of libya from ambassador stevens says we cannot defend the consulate. she was not clear eyed. she was blind and deaf and the president of the united states never picked up the...
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clinton thanked the group for her valentine's day gift. we should note also for the first time since her accident in december, clinton did not have to wear those corrective lenses she's been using for impaired vision from her fall. >> in the future we will be looking to your suck -- to keep our nation strong, free and exceptional. >> and pope benedict xvi has given his final mass in a rare ovation from the people assembled at st. peter's kba silica. nbc's anne thompson is live with us in rome and i don't think we knew the full extent of the troubles he was experiencing in mexico, that final trip where he was in mexico and in cuba, we knew there were scandals in the church there, protests for lack of an apology. but now it turns out he took a fall in the middle of the night and hit his head? >> reporter: he did and it was after that trip when he wind chill factor to cuba that the pope made the decision he was going to retire and started setting the wheels in motion here for the announcement that came earlier this week. he apparently got up
clinton thanked the group for her valentine's day gift. we should note also for the first time since her accident in december, clinton did not have to wear those corrective lenses she's been using for impaired vision from her fall. >> in the future we will be looking to your suck -- to keep our nation strong, free and exceptional. >> and pope benedict xvi has given his final mass in a rare ovation from the people assembled at st. peter's kba silica. nbc's anne thompson is live with...
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hillary clinton says she did not see the memo. >> stop you there. this is from the hearing with panetta and dempsey. they are asked about the memo sent up the chain to hillary clinton where she says she didn't see it. dempsey, chairman of the joint chief and secretary of defense asked about it specifically. >> you said previously you were aware of that. >> i was aware of the communication back to state department. >> when secretary clinton testified a few weeks ago she had a clear eyed assessment of the threat we faced in libya, is that really a credible statement? if she didn't know about the ambassador's cable on august 15 saying we can't defend this place? >> i don't know if she didn't know about the cable. >> she said she didn't. >> are you stunned that she didn't? >> i'm call myself surprised. >> we are surprised. >> this is from the ambassador who is later killed that said this is indefensible. we are attacked we'll die. the secretary of state for whom this ambassador is working didn't see it, so that is issue number one on the prehistory. sec
hillary clinton says she did not see the memo. >> stop you there. this is from the hearing with panetta and dempsey. they are asked about the memo sent up the chain to hillary clinton where she says she didn't see it. dempsey, chairman of the joint chief and secretary of defense asked about it specifically. >> you said previously you were aware of that. >> i was aware of the communication back to state department. >> when secretary clinton testified a few weeks ago she...
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[applause] the way we're going to proceed is secretary clinton will deliver a speech after which we'll have time, given her schedule, for just a few questions. madam secretary, the floor is yours. >> thank you, richard, for that introduction and for everything you've continue to lead this very valuable institution. i also want to thank the board of the council on foreign relations and all my friends and colleagues and other interested citizens who are here today because you respect the council, you understand the important work it does and you are committed to ensuring that we chart a path to the future, that's in the best interests not only of the united states, but of the world. as richard said, tomorrow is my last day as secretary of state and though it is hard to predict what any day in this job will bring, i know that tomorrow my heart will be very full. serving with the men and women of the state department and usaid has been a singular honor and secretary kerry will find there is no more extraordinary group of people working anywhere in the world so these last days have been bit
[applause] the way we're going to proceed is secretary clinton will deliver a speech after which we'll have time, given her schedule, for just a few questions. madam secretary, the floor is yours. >> thank you, richard, for that introduction and for everything you've continue to lead this very valuable institution. i also want to thank the board of the council on foreign relations and all my friends and colleagues and other interested citizens who are here today because you respect the...
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senator obama and senator clinton had no problem trying to figure out how we failed in iraq. did it matter to go back and investigate bush administration interrogation techniques? i think it did. i joined them. did it matter to question the policy in iraq after it was failing? the point is you have four dead americans and commander in chief who is disengaged. you got the secretary of state never talking to the secretary of defense. you have the secretary of state of state not knowing her own ambassador sending cables to her department saying we can't defend the conflict case of coordinated acin august. the secretary of state knew about it. secretary of defense didn't. how can it be? who changed the talking point. how could the president of the united states go to the american people for three weeks with susan rice and say we believe there is no evidence of a coordinated preplanned terrorist attack. the secretary of defense testified before the congress and knew that night? they manipulated the intelligence close to ethrax create narrative that bin laden was dead, al-qaeda is
senator obama and senator clinton had no problem trying to figure out how we failed in iraq. did it matter to go back and investigate bush administration interrogation techniques? i think it did. i joined them. did it matter to question the policy in iraq after it was failing? the point is you have four dead americans and commander in chief who is disengaged. you got the secretary of state never talking to the secretary of defense. you have the secretary of state of state not knowing her own...
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what president clinton is talking about is exactly right. don't assume that we have nothing to say because we haven't necessarily talked to a particular group before, because actually, again, we're at a unique moment where we know people actually agree with us. so now is the perfect time to engage in the conversation and let's engage in the conversation in a way that doesn'tbarriers. that's the message that democrats are trying to work on and took away from president clinton's message. >> that's quite heartening, they are in a position of strength and unity to some degree and say let's not squander this opportunity but think wholesale about where we are as a party. conversely, republicans are operating from a weakened position and i can't get over these quotes. whenever a republican leader comes out and says we've got to change the direction in which we are heading, there is never any real concession to substantive policy changes. bobby jindal said i don't think it's just a marketing change or cosmetic changes. it's going to require serious
what president clinton is talking about is exactly right. don't assume that we have nothing to say because we haven't necessarily talked to a particular group before, because actually, again, we're at a unique moment where we know people actually agree with us. so now is the perfect time to engage in the conversation and let's engage in the conversation in a way that doesn'tbarriers. that's the message that democrats are trying to work on and took away from president clinton's message. >>...
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clinton-ryan? >> i think they're one to one. if hillary clinton runs, we all thought she was the inevitable candidate in 2008, and we're proved wrong. but certainly she would start out as a huge frontrunner, nobody else on the democratic side. so really it is a question if paul ryan can get through. i would say james garfield, the only sitting house member ever elected president. >> and jonathan, he is also up against the viewers. the history, doing the television age that the losing vice presidential candidate always goes on to never be president. ana-marie cox, and jonathan allen, thank you very much. >>> coming up, when do you think mississippi ratified the 13th amendment abolishing slavery in this country? send us your guesses on facebook or twitter, the answer coming up. here is a hint. it actually took a movie to get them to do it. >>> and the most love-sick governor of our time, back, running for congress in south carolina. and the frontrunner in the democratic party to run against him it steven colbert's sister. we'll pr
clinton-ryan? >> i think they're one to one. if hillary clinton runs, we all thought she was the inevitable candidate in 2008, and we're proved wrong. but certainly she would start out as a huge frontrunner, nobody else on the democratic side. so really it is a question if paul ryan can get through. i would say james garfield, the only sitting house member ever elected president. >> and jonathan, he is also up against the viewers. the history, doing the television age that the...
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speaking of running, could rahm emanuel run if hillary clinton is not interested? a spokesman told a chicago newspaper he is not running. so check out the website for this swanky website where the obamas spent valentine's day. it's called minibar. >>> house speaker john boehner blew a kiss to luke russert. >>> and you'll want to hear what the president said about the penny. he didn't rule out the idea of getting rid of it. >> this is not going to be a huge savings for government, but any time we're spending more money on something that people don't actually use, that's an example of something we should probably change. >> and if you read only one thing this morning, "time" magazine tries to answer the question that a lot of us had as conditions for the stranded carnival cruise passengers got more and more disgusting. why weren't they just evacuated? why not send in the coast guard? it's up on our facebook page at facebook/jansingco. it reduces the urge to smoke. it put me at ease that you could smoke on the first week. [ male announcer ] some people had changes in
speaking of running, could rahm emanuel run if hillary clinton is not interested? a spokesman told a chicago newspaper he is not running. so check out the website for this swanky website where the obamas spent valentine's day. it's called minibar. >>> house speaker john boehner blew a kiss to luke russert. >>> and you'll want to hear what the president said about the penny. he didn't rule out the idea of getting rid of it. >> this is not going to be a huge savings for...
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no, hillary clinton is really her own thing. her career in public life, in public office is unlike anybody else in american history. she went from being an accomplished lawyer in her early career to being the first lady of arkansas. she then became a very high profile first lady of the united states for her husband's two terms in office. she was the first modern first lady to turn that role into a policy job and the first attempt at health reform. she went on to weather her husband's in-office infidelity scandal and impeachment in office. she became a senator from the state of new york and then of course that historic and very hard fought race for the democratic presidential nomination, concluding with barack obama winning the presidency, and then him nominating hillary clinton to be the highest profile secretary of state that our country probably has ever had. and we have had a lot of very high profile secretaries of state. >> so it's been quite a challenging week saying goodbye to so many people. and knowing that i will not ha
no, hillary clinton is really her own thing. her career in public life, in public office is unlike anybody else in american history. she went from being an accomplished lawyer in her early career to being the first lady of arkansas. she then became a very high profile first lady of the united states for her husband's two terms in office. she was the first modern first lady to turn that role into a policy job and the first attempt at health reform. she went on to weather her husband's in-office...
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i mean, these aren't hillary clinton hearings. you know, i think everybody realizes, both sides, that the hagel hearings did not go well. he did not come off well. this was never going to be an elgabt process, but it is now very inelgapt. >> decidedly inelegant. at its root, it comes back to something very basic. if i was a wiser and smarter telephone host, i would have brought this up earlier. senator lee bright is the problem for chuck hagel. he is the guy that is maybe going to give lindsey graham a primary chal epg, governor rendell. lindsay graham has been having meetings with the tea partiers, the club for growth. he is intent on solidifying the political base because he is worried about the next election, and if lindsey graham wasn't so worried, maybe there would be more bipartisanship in the upper chamber, and maybe all these legislative -- this kabuk eh dance would never happen brsh. >> that's a hard thinking to do anything about. we had a chance to do something about a procedure that is dysfunctional and basically flawed
i mean, these aren't hillary clinton hearings. you know, i think everybody realizes, both sides, that the hagel hearings did not go well. he did not come off well. this was never going to be an elgabt process, but it is now very inelgapt. >> decidedly inelegant. at its root, it comes back to something very basic. if i was a wiser and smarter telephone host, i would have brought this up earlier. senator lee bright is the problem for chuck hagel. he is the guy that is maybe going to give...
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that's the message to hillary clinton. reports that the former secretary of state is america's most popular politician. it obama, bynum and john gibson. let's go live to capitol hill. >> i was assuming that was an unsolicited video. we are all broken up by that. i am extremely troubled. tom, what do you make of this? are you surprised? she is a delight. she is a delightful person. >> women love her because she is a strong educated woman and she takes you back. >> how much does the favorable press help her? nobody asks tough questions. >> she has had a free pass her whole career. except when she ran against obama, of course. but she is the most popular politician in the country, but she is no longer a politician. she doesn't have to debate. she does president have to take the top policy [stances|instances] and this terms of debating other people she gets to travel the world. it is a tough job. but what has she done that is the remarkable thing? >> i can't think of a single thing. i went through the list. if you look at the
that's the message to hillary clinton. reports that the former secretary of state is america's most popular politician. it obama, bynum and john gibson. let's go live to capitol hill. >> i was assuming that was an unsolicited video. we are all broken up by that. i am extremely troubled. tom, what do you make of this? are you surprised? she is a delight. she is a delightful person. >> women love her because she is a strong educated woman and she takes you back. >> how much does...
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consulate was killed an american ambassador in benghazi libya during the testimony clinton rather calmly said you know things like that the revolutions that sprang up during the arab spring like in libya the events in mali have created instability and safe havens for terrorists and she made it clear that there is no doubt that the algerian terrorists had weapons from libya so the u.s. secretary has basically admitted that the actions of the usa and nato have caused a mass instability that has allowed the seeds of terrorism to grow when the justification for most of the actions in the muslim world is to stop evil dictators who harbor terrorists or spread chatting to mock recy if libya would have been left alone algerian terrorists wouldn't be getting any weapons from it now this is like an exterminator accidentally or maybe on purpose actually feeding the roaches in your basements that there are ten times more of them and then saying that he has to keep working because he's the only one who can get rid of the roaches people like hillary clinton who support funding brutal jihad it's rebel
consulate was killed an american ambassador in benghazi libya during the testimony clinton rather calmly said you know things like that the revolutions that sprang up during the arab spring like in libya the events in mali have created instability and safe havens for terrorists and she made it clear that there is no doubt that the algerian terrorists had weapons from libya so the u.s. secretary has basically admitted that the actions of the usa and nato have caused a mass instability that has...
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where was secretary clinton? she didn't know about the 9/11 cables coming in from ambassador stevens? now she we find out she wasn't even talking to her colleagues. this is more than just a lack of coordination. this is a lack of leadership. and it's no wonder secretary panetta didn't know what leadership was or who was in charge. rick: byron, so the president was initially briefed according to secretary panetta's testimony yesterday. and then a long time passed before he got any updates. but, general dempsey said that the president's national security staff was being constantly updated. so top staff members were in the loop throughout the whole thing. good enough? >> probably not. i think up until yesterday this benghazi story had been about hillary clinton, about susan rice, about the state department. yesterday it became about president obama. and the question was, where was he, after having a prescheduled meeting in the afternoon on that day, secretary panetta spoke to him no more. i think what became clear w
where was secretary clinton? she didn't know about the 9/11 cables coming in from ambassador stevens? now she we find out she wasn't even talking to her colleagues. this is more than just a lack of coordination. this is a lack of leadership. and it's no wonder secretary panetta didn't know what leadership was or who was in charge. rick: byron, so the president was initially briefed according to secretary panetta's testimony yesterday. and then a long time passed before he got any updates. but,...
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did you ever speak with secretary clinton about that? >> senator, you know, as i mentioned in my testimony, nctc had identified almost 281 facilities that were under threat of one kind or another. and to deal with that, i mean, that's not our responsibility. that's the state department's responsibility. >> i would add my straightforward question, particularly to general dempsey, you said you were aware of the cable, did you ever bring it to secretary clinton's attention given that it said from her ambassador that the consulate could not with stand a coordinated attack? yes or no? >> did not. the cable was to the state department. not to me. >> i understand. but you were aware of it. it's a pretty important cable and you said you were also aware of the deteriorating security situation. >> as a result of our meetings on the counter-- >> but did you bring it to secretary clinton? >> i did not. >> did you ever bring it to the president's attention either of you? >> no. >> no. >> ok. based on the deteriorating security situation, we have this
did you ever speak with secretary clinton about that? >> senator, you know, as i mentioned in my testimony, nctc had identified almost 281 facilities that were under threat of one kind or another. and to deal with that, i mean, that's not our responsibility. that's the state department's responsibility. >> i would add my straightforward question, particularly to general dempsey, you said you were aware of the cable, did you ever bring it to secretary clinton's attention given that...
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it turns out former secretary of state clinton and mr. obama spoke to each other during the attack but neither involved the secretary of defense or the chairman of the joint chiefs. after a regularly scheduled half hour briefing in the late afternoon, both men were basically out of the loop while bengazi burned for eight hours. the republican strategy to find out answers is bound up with confirmation hearings for chuck hagel, the president's nomination of secretary -- john brennan. republicans have been successful in holding off both votes until after they return from risess on february twoifth. the new york time calls it political score settling. but bengazi is very much in the running for scandal status a nation fails to defend its citizens, it is time to take a hard look who is in church. clearly perturbed president obama said it is unfortunate it intrudes when i am presiding over a war in stanford and i need a secretary of defense. he was off to palm bach for more golf. all manner of theories and conspiracy theories are wafting above
it turns out former secretary of state clinton and mr. obama spoke to each other during the attack but neither involved the secretary of defense or the chairman of the joint chiefs. after a regularly scheduled half hour briefing in the late afternoon, both men were basically out of the loop while bengazi burned for eight hours. the republican strategy to find out answers is bound up with confirmation hearings for chuck hagel, the president's nomination of secretary -- john brennan. republicans...
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then it was we want to hear from secretary clinton. senator clinton did testify. then it was a request put out to the white house tuesday asking for specific information about where the president was and was doing on september 11, 2012 after the raid in benghazi. now, the white house pointed out that all this information is public record, that as this was happening in realtime, we were learning about secretary clinton at the secretary's request was speaking to labor yes. the following day the president himself called the president of libya. senators were still insisting that the white house put to them in writing this very same question. they got that this morning. they said their concerns are satisfied. as we know, there are other senators looking for more information. cenk: one last thing here. look, you know first of all hagel has nothing to do with benghazi. he wasn't in the government. it's abstored begin with on that note. again, i look for what's their real motivation, now, one thing which is what they say then there's a second thing, what they're waiting f
then it was we want to hear from secretary clinton. senator clinton did testify. then it was a request put out to the white house tuesday asking for specific information about where the president was and was doing on september 11, 2012 after the raid in benghazi. now, the white house pointed out that all this information is public record, that as this was happening in realtime, we were learning about secretary clinton at the secretary's request was speaking to labor yes. the following day the...
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this is something that hillary clinton herself warned about a few days ago. by not stepping in, everyone agrees that say sad is going to go but we have not stepped in to shape the opposition and not only a viable force but a force that is valuable instead of al-qaeda linked. >> chris: but we don't know that necessarily they would topple assad or al-qaeda still wouldn't have a big role, but it raises the question. here you have panetta, dempsey, clinton, petraeus the entire national security team saying arm the rebels and the white house said no, why do you think not? >> and saudi arabia, britain, france and qatar they understood the importance. i think the president does not like to intervene in these kinds of things. i think also during an election he understood that the public was war weary and didn't want to take that chance. i think this is going to be a big mistake in retrospect. as nina said you've got 800,000 people displaced 60,000 that are dead. syria is linchpin in the middle east and it could spark a regional war. if assad fell and we were able to
this is something that hillary clinton herself warned about a few days ago. by not stepping in, everyone agrees that say sad is going to go but we have not stepped in to shape the opposition and not only a viable force but a force that is valuable instead of al-qaeda linked. >> chris: but we don't know that necessarily they would topple assad or al-qaeda still wouldn't have a big role, but it raises the question. here you have panetta, dempsey, clinton, petraeus the entire national...